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Friday, June 13, 2008

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How many of you still need PHP4?

Depending on how many of you are still needing PHP4, I will consider different solutions for the new features (mostly optimized indexing and such).

I’m developing under apache+PHP5 but I always care about being compatible with PHP4.

As you might know, however, support for PHP4 has been dropped in February; so how is the situation of your web hosts? Would you still use FP if I chose a PHP5-only feature for future development?

Let me know. You can discuss on the forum, too.


  1. anne

    Friday, June 13, 2008 - 19:43:57

    hi, nice to find news on flatpress here! i just managed to convince my local provider to FINALLY have PHP5 and PHP4 on his server.. i do not really ’speak’ PHP but i found several very interesting cms solutions with amazing wysiwyg features written in PHP.. i will look at the development of flatpress too, so keep on coding ;o)

  2. David

    Friday, June 13, 2008 - 20:15:43

    Up in the north ( living in Sweden :P ) the hosting companies have allready moved on to PHP5 so here it isn’t a problem with dropped support for the old version.
    ( A decent one has 5.2.1, and a cheapy one 5.0.5 at a glance… ) Did I say that Flatpress is great btw? :)

  3. Marcoverga

    Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 10:51:16

    My hosting will upgrade automatically to PHP5 next week, so IMHO there’s no problem…

  4. Joseph

    Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 15:13:22

    PHP5 is pretty much a default is most places now. Probably at some point in the near future it would be worth just focussing on developing in version 5.

    I use flatpress on one of my sites with:

    PHP 5.1.6 + XCache v1.2.2
    Lighttpd 1.4.19-1

    Works well, thanks for the cool product :)

  5. Bgames

    Monday, June 16, 2008 - 03:15:45

    My hosting is PHP 5, so it’s fine with me. Looks like everyone else is okay as well.

  6. flash.tato

    Monday, June 16, 2008 - 13:39:46

    NoWhereMan, hosters had 3 years to upgrade, if we developers continue to develop for PHP4 then PHP5 will never be on!

    Sorry for users which have PHP4 but the progress can’t be stopped for idiot which don’t want to upgrade their servers.

    So i hope you’ll follow this way.

  7. NoWhereMan

    Monday, June 16, 2008 - 17:04:24


    actually I don’t mind a heck about hosts, but I do care about users, and I don’t want my users to be penalized in any way ;)

    beside this, FlatPress has been compatible with PHP5 for a lot now

  8. laborix

    Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 05:53:58

    I have not a own server, my sites are hosted on my provider.

    PHP Version 4.4.8

    I didn’t know what will happen if Flatpress only work with PHP 5. And also I didn’t know the time when my provider upgrade to PHP 5.

    But if you need some features inside PHP 5, so change it. I will see what I can do to use Flatpress again :D

  9. RufusMRC

    Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 11:07:59

    My WebHosting services just recently moved over to PHP5. I suspect that most Hosts are or will be on 5.x soon enough. As for my own private sites, I’ve always installed PHP 5.

    Good Luck & Regards!

  10. Joako9205

    Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 23:56:36

    Use PHP 5 =)

  11. embrance

    Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 22:21:29

    I dont believe we actually have a choice.Soon or later php4 will die,so its better to focus on php5 only.

  12. hobie

    Friday, June 20, 2008 - 16:00:05

    I still need PHP4 (4.3.9 to be exact) and have no idea how long this will continue, but it does not surprise me that the same host that will not allow me to access a database does not have the current version of PHP. I hope that even as you build features that exploit PHP5’s capabilities, the program will remain usable for those of us in more backward environments.

  13. NoWhereMan

    Friday, June 20, 2008 - 17:47:48

    thank you, laborix and hobie, that’s the kind of answers I need. Why can’t you move away from there? Are you hosting a domain?

    I just want to know, I don’t want to convince you to move in any way, even though I could suggest at least one free (or very cheap, depending on your needs) and reliable host.

  14. laborix

    Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 16:15:40

    NoWhereMan wrote:
    Why can’t you move away from there? Are you hosting a domain?

    On this place there a two domains of me with many “lab”-subdomains since five years. Many pages from there have links all around the world. Ok, I can move my domains to an other provider with PHP5, but I can’t tell nothing bad about my present provider.

  15. laborix

    Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 16:46:11

    Shit (mistake above) :(

    I will say that there is nothing bad with my current provider.

  16. Carlo

    Monday, June 23, 2008 - 10:47:42

    PHP 5 …

  17. Saeba

    Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 07:22:48

    I don’t think I have a problem with PHP 4 or 5 ;)


    Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 05:17:39

    any plan for multi user flatpress.
    something like wpmu/lifetype?


  19. hobie

    Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 08:01:14

    In my case, it is server space allotted by my institution–and they are stingy. I use a different, more generous host for other purposes, but I need to use this one for affiliated content.

  20. laborix

    Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 17:12:26

    Hi NoWhereMan,

    forget my problem with PHP4.4.8, it’s today changed by my provider to PHP 5.2.6. I asking the technical support and talk a bit later with the customer support.

    It seems, that the future of my preferred blog system (Flatpress) is very sunny, hehe…

  21. liken

    Monday, July 7, 2008 - 20:59:40

    Hi, noWhereMan,

  22. liken

    Monday, July 7, 2008 - 21:06:26

    Hi, noWhereMan, I think I have found a bug in flatpress.
    There is a problem with views counter. After 16500 visits or a few more the number restarts. Do you know where is the problem in php code?

  23. NoWhereMan

    Tuesday, July 8, 2008 - 06:41:52

    1) PLEASE use the forum to report bugs
    2) I don’t know at the moment, it’s kind of strange; the code is in plugin.postviews.php


  24. i_pk_pjers_i

    Monday, July 21, 2008 - 04:05:21

    Hi NoWhereMan, I think you should forget about php4 and making everything compatible with it and just develop for php5 because basically everyone has php5 and nobody uses php4 anymore. You could add more features and stuff if you used just php5 also because you wouldn’t have to worry about things not working in php4. You should REALLY just use php5 and forget php4.

  25. Guti

    Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 20:53:23

    Personally I run PHP 5, but I understand lots of ISP still offer PHP 4, so IMHO, 4 support should not be dropped, at least until PHP 6 is gold.

  26. dapanther

    Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 17:02:54

    I just installed FP two days ago and highly addicted :) On the PHP5 issue, I am good to go. Running 5.2.1 Thanks for making such a great app…

  27. Jemline

    Friday, July 17, 2009 - 20:34:53


    In my opinion, i would think it would be best to keep php4 & 5 because many flatpress users including me use php4, but then again lots of flatpress users are using php5. And like you said “I do care about users”, well you should keep both. I’t keeps everyone happy.
    But if you cant make that happen then i understand.


  28. QuHno

    Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 11:31:24

    My own webspaces all use PHP5 but several providers here - especially those who bundle webspace with the internet account - still use PHP4. Lately I even stumbled over one with PHP 4.0.8 installed …

    … must be some inert mass involved ;)

  29. Ant09

    Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 23:22:08

    Hi Guys,

    I know this is a bit below you guys, could you explain in dummy terms exactly what PHP does